Antichrist

turbotommy

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Good day all, I'm someone who's always believed in Jesus but never joined an organized church. I believe now is time for me to join like minded people that believe the end times are near. What is the 7th. Day Adventist view on the new president being the antichrist? I believe Revelation 13:3 clearly shows this.
 
Hello to you,

I speak as an individual and my opinion should not be taken as the position of the SDA church. I am just a regular member and do not even have a position in the church.

Having said that,
Paul discusses the revelation of the man of sin (the antichrist) in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-8. By comparing this text with its biblical foundations, certain elements become clearer. I would like to examine three primary biblical sources and their implications.

1. Daniel and the Antichrist:​

Paul draws from Daniel’s prophecies when describing the "lawless one." Daniel speaks of a power emerging from Rome that opposes God and aims to alter divine laws (Daniel 7:25; 11:37), paralleling the characteristics of pride and lawlessness in 2 Thessalonians. This power, emerging post-Roman Empire, symbolises apostate Christianity during the Middle Ages.

2. Isaiah, Ezekiel, and the Fallen Cherub:​

Paul, like Ezekiel and Isaiah, portrays the "lawless one" as seeking to elevate himself to God's stature. This imagery is derived from the fall of a heavenly cherub due to pride (Ezekiel 28; Isaiah 14:12-14). Paul summarises that a spiritual force, namely Satan, underlies earthly opposition to God, using human institutions throughout history to achieve his ends.

3. Earthly and Spiritual Antichrist:​

Paul blends prophecies to predict a future earthly force opposing God and the work of the heavenly fallen cherub. The foretold antichrist, manifesting historically through church apostasy, will eventually attempt to usurp God’s place on Earth, mimicking Christ’s Second Coming. Paul describes the antichrist’s work through historical religious institutions and his eventual personal "coming," but this will be short-lived as we can see in Vs. 8, "And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming."

The amount of evidence tying the US government's role at the end time is too overwhelming to be just a coincidence. I do not have enough evidence to put names to faces (as you have done above), but I am certain that the US government is the beast from the earth that emerges towards the end of 2300-year prophecy (1798 - when the US became the superpower). See 👉this chart. Just before Christ's return, the US government will be the executive agency of the dragon, for it will start speaking like the dragon (Revelation 13:11). You can read these FAQs for more details.

I am just curious; how did you arrive to the conclusion that President Trump is the antichrist?
 
Hi, I appreciate your reply and indeph knowledge of the scriptures! I think the final thing that convinced me is when he " received the mortal wound, to the head but was healed" as in Revelation 13:3 . That along with how he fakes being religious, and all the hatefulness, nothing about them conforms to Christ's life and teachings.
 
I have a different opinion. My thoughts are shaped by the interpretation of the prophecies based on scriptural and historical evidence. I will try to summarise the events leading to the deadly wound.

Background: The French Revolution​

The French Revolution began in 1789 and sought dismantle the absolute power of the monarchy and the church, leading to widespread social, political, and cultural upheavals. Early on, revolutionary forces viewed the Catholic Church as a pillar of the old regime (Ancien Régime), and thus enacted measures against it, such as the Civil Constitution of the Clergy (1790), which aimed to bring the Church under state control.

Tensions with the Papacy​

Pope Pius VI was an adamant critic of these revolutionary policies, particularly the invasion of the Papal States and the secularization of lands. Relations between revolutionary France and the Papal States deteriorated as France extended its revolutionary wars across Europe, seeing the Papal States as a potential ally of the counter-revolutionary forces.

The Invasion of the Papal States​

In 1796, Napoleon Bonaparte, then a rising military leader, waged a successful campaign in Northern Italy against the Austrians, who were allied with the Pope. The French victories expanded their influence in Italy, but tensions remained high. When a pro-French sympathizer, the French envoy to the Papal States, was killed in a Roman riot in December 1797, it served as a pretext for further French intervention.

Capture of Pope Pius VI​

On February 10, 1798, in response to this strife and the threat posed by anti-revolutionary forces, the French forces, led by General Louis-Alexandre Berthier, entered Rome. They declared the establishment of the Roman Republic, thus ending the Papal government's political control. General Berthier, executing orders from the Directory (the French government at the time), took Pope Pius VI prisoner on February 20, 1798.

Exile and Death of the Pope​

Pius VI was initially taken to Siena, and later moved to the fortress of Valence in France, where he died on August 29, 1799. During his captivity, the Pope maintained a stoic resistance to French demands, and his death marked the first time in centuries that the Papal throne was vacant due to the interference of a European power.

Shift in Power in Rome​

Pope Pius VI's capture and death were indicative of the significant erosion of Papal political power in Europe, a symbolic deathly blow to the temporal authority of the Papacy. The establishment of the Roman Republic echoed a broader revolutionary pattern of secularization and republicanism.

Despite these setbacks, the Church's spiritual authority persisted (you can see the power transition here). Following Napoleon's eventual downfall and the Congress of Vienna in 1815, the Papal States were restored, and the Church regained temporal control over these territories. Nonetheless, the power dynamics had shifted significantly, laying the foundations for future conflicts over the role of the Church in European politics, eventually leading to the unification of Italy and the later establishment of the Vatican City (Holy See) as an independent state in 1929.

You can find more resources about the deadly wound here.
 
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